Hit the road Michelle and Hillary. Sarah is in town, and she is going to expose all of you lefties for who you are.

And get outta town Barrack. You don't have the experience to be a maggot-licker. And Sarah has experience as well as integrity to her beliefs. You even admitted that you don't know when life begins, Barry.

Sorry, Tim. When you attack what is dear to my heart, I'm going to chime in.

Since I know Carl and Larry aren't going to say what The Lord would have them to say here; I gotta do their work for them. Hopefully God will eventually get them to where they need to be, so that I won't have to duck in here anymore.

Jim

Actually, we would, and do. It's just not THAT. :P

That's right Carl. The content of my response is sure out of touch with reality, isn't it?

Jim

It sure is out of line to be tough on pro-choicers pro-gay-marriage supporters, isn't it? We should be nicer to them, shouldn't we?

Becasue they're no worse than those right-wing hawks who have protected our families from terrorism for seven years, and overthrow folks like The Taliban and Saddam Hussein, right?

After all, if someone is a threat to our family in our neighborhood, we should just live and let live, and not seek to stop them, right?

Well, at least wait until they come to our doorstep and threaten us, right?

But those evil Republicans want to go stop our enemies before that happens, right?

And heck, Tim, he's probably right that we're the ones who provoked it all anyways, right?

America is no good, right? Well, at least we're no better than anyone else, right? We're not so great, are we?

And Bush, all he cares about it oil, right? Well, of course, because he was born into an oil family that logically follows without a doubt, right? That's just the way he is, right?

Go ahead, get some "amens" from Brother Tim. Make him feel like he's not so bad for voting for Obama. Nah, Obama's not as good as McCain; but he's not much worse really, is he?

Jim

good grief.

i concur with carl.

that's all.

i also agree with a good bit of what you said, tim, i just arrive at a different destination, after the agree-ing.

Yeah, Tim's right about everything the media is spreading about Palin. No Homer Simpson naivete there.

McCain and Palin: the bad guys, out to save the babies and confornt the roots of terrorism. What a couple of jerks.

Clearly they are no better than Obama Infantacide and 3rd Party Isolationism.

Jim

"Kill Whitey: Just How Stupid Do the Republicans Think We Are and Are They Right?"

I don't think they can conceive how stupid liberals are. Since they choose to think with their will, instead of their intellect, they make their stupidity boundless.

"(Authors Note: Sorry it's been a while. In the space of the last 3 weeks the person I was cutting trees down for, the same man I was to rent the Almost West Virginia house from, suddenly passed away. His son swooped in and is selling the house and it now looks like I'm not gonna get paid for the tree cutting. Also 2 new people moved in on either side of me, both of whom own pit bulls. Walking Buster and Sarah has taken on the flavor of redneck rollerball and if that wasn't enough, thanks to CSPAN, I watched nearly all of both National Conventions, so my mood might be a little, shall we say colored, and evident in the following piece. But not by much.

Good luck gettin' your money. Hope they give you something, at least.

"In an act of cynicism to which I can only aspire, John McCain - or more likely the Republican Party - selected Sarah Palin as his V.P. in a transparent attempt to mollify his Christofascist base and perhaps wrest a place in History from Hillary Clinton."

Any way you slice it, she's 500 times more qualified than Obama, Biden and Hillary combined.

"Palin, a red hot trailer trash hockey mom"

From trailer trash to mayor, to governor, to VP pick. Yup, that's the normal progression from trailer trash.

"just slightly to the right of, say, Hitler,"

Who is a baby-killing son-of-a-gun like yourself to compare anyone to Hitler? You vote constantly and shamelessly to have infants ripped apart and killed daily, and you have the gall to compare ANYONE to Hitler? Especially a woman who welcomed a down-syndromes baby?

"has gone, in days, from deserved obscurity to the spotlight of the National Stage"

I think any reasonable person would have to concur that someone with an 83% approval rating and a record of success might deserve a little bit of recognition.

"(if only for minutes at a time) w/a resume and familial issues that have the Republicans flip-flopping like the dying fish they are."

We've jumped over Obama in the popular and electoral polls; and we've cut the Congressional lead in half. We're not dying; but we sure are exposing how dead the media's logic is.

"Take the 'bridge to nowhere' debacle. Palin proudly boasts that she lilled this particularly odious earmark but fails to mention that she kept the 27 million dollars to build the access road to said bridge."

The point is, she spent the money wisely instead of wastefully. She didn't waste it on one big project that wasn't really wanted or needed. She used the money wisely.

"Reformer, my ass."

Spending money wisely is a good thing.

"Then there's 'troopergate', where it's alleged that Palin (ab)used her power in an attempt to get her sister's ex husband fired from the Alaska State Troopers."

Didn't the media tell you that the scumbag brother-in-law was tasering his son, making death threats, etc.

What person in their right mind would not take Sarah Palin's side on that?

"Reformer my ass."

You assume the media spin is true, without any thought or investigation of your own, and you assume she's a crook like Clinton. Crazy.


"And of course, there's the pregnant daughter. Now, I agree that this is nothing new and that things happen in even 'the best of homes', but I find it suspect and not a little creepy that suddenly the Republican Party just looooooves illegitimate children and have chosen this issue to proudly bow out of people's personal lives and not, say, Bill Clinton's infamous blowjob. Reformers, my ass."

MUCH unlike Clinton, responsibility was admitted, and taken.

Now, THAT'S reform.

"Besides can you imagine the outcry if Barak Obama had, say, a 17 yr old daughter who got knocked up by a thuglike boyfriend who showed up at the DNC looking like he just won the Stupid Lottery?"

Obama would have just had her abort it. He was quoted as saying that if his daughter came home and admitted she was pregnant, he wouldn't punih her by making her carry the baby. Is that the kind of reform that you like?

"Serious side note: OK the kids are off limits, but check out the Palin boyfriend's myspace page (and I quote:) 'I'm just a fuckin' redneck. Fuck w/me and I'll kick ass.' and, of course the deathless 'I don't want kids.' Trust me, this whiteboy's a punkass slut who's getting shotgunned into marriage by a political machine."

He took responsibility for his actions. Nobody can force anyone to do that.

"Watching Palin, McCain, Romney and their ilk spew their brandy new 'change' message all the while lying through perfect teeth about working surges and airplanes on ebay appalled me. 'How stupid do they think we are?" I thought. 'Is anyone actually buying this crap?' I thought. Then I watched the cheering masses in St. Paul and have listened to the locals talk about her (Palin) like the second coming of Joan of Fucking Arc and I slowly start to realize why we've been saddled w/the most corrupt administration West of Putin for the last 8 years: People are stupid."

And that's why you are offically closed-minded. You assume that people are stupid.

"Not just ill-informed. Stupid. And lazy,.But mostly stupid."

The only thaing that is stupid is to not have the dignity to care about things that you know you should care about.

"Around these parts and other parts, I'm sure, Palin's getting praised for dangerously idiotic comments like 'The Iraq War is a call from God" and that the (so far nonexistent) plan to end the war is 'God's plan'."

No, she said that we need to pray that we're on God's side.

"Come on, folks, we've had 8 years of these 'God talks to me' religious wingnuts and look where it's got us. Hated by much of the world for our simplistic and overbearing certainty that god blesses our 'right' to tell other cultures they're not good enough."

You know that's a crock. We're in a war on terror. Why do you say stuff that you KNOW is wrong and unfair?

" So fuck this gun totin', bible thumpin' wolf murdering bitch from the North country who, 13 days into the zeitgeist has the gall to demean community service while exalting her own intentions to hide from the press."

NObody is demaning community service; but EVERYONE with a brain is demaning someone who says they were a "community organizer" and can't explain what it is, or have any people testify at the convention of being helped by his community organization.

"And while yr at it fuck John McCain for kissing W's ass just to win a contest and betraying what integrity he had all the while reminding us that he's a war hero. But you know what? McCain crashed not 1, not 2, not even 3, but five fucking airplane in his career. I'm starting to think he's bad luck."

And he is Palain crashing the green-backed god of choice funded victory party that the Dems thought they were going to have in November.

Thank God.

Jim

Hey all, Tim here. I offer you, America and the world the above postings by Mononymous to show not only the level of polarization that exists in our national debate but also proof of my premise that people are stupid.

And when I said 'kill whitey' I meant the Republican mindset, not Srah Palin, who is hoisting herself on her own petard as we speak.

It's a battle between good and evil and nobody knows who's who.

Everybody dance now.
tb

i say what i usually do....

no matter what, the politicians win, and us normal folk lose.

"Hey all, Tim here. I offer you, America and the world the above postings by Mononymous to show not only the level of polarization that exists in our national debate but also proof of my premise that people are stupid."

And if people were as smart as you there would be even more killed infants, more AIDS, more broken marriages, more shattered families, weaker incentives to start businesses, more unemployment, more terrorism, more government dependency, etc.

"And when I said 'kill whitey' I meant the Republican mindset, not Sarah Palin, who is hoisting herself on her own petard as we speak."

The Republican ticket is for natural gas, its the Obama ticket that supports the wind-power.

"It's a battle between good and evil and nobody knows who's who."

Its a matter of if you're going to believe the liberal media, or if you're going to take ideas to the table and slice and dice them for yourself.

"Everybody dance now."

As soon as you free your brain from the slavery of Ted Turner, maybe you can figure out how to.

Jim

"no matter what, the politicians win, and us normal folk lose."

Can someone say "hasty generalization"?

Jim

No, not hasty at all. Just a statement based on history.

Abraham Lincoln. Subject over.

Jim

is he running?

i'll amend my statement, though.

just a statement based on the last 50 years or so of political history....

I'd certainly agree that "all too many" politicians put themselves first; but I'm not too big on blanket statements. I feel like I would be throwing too many good people like Reagan and The Bushes under the bus.

Jim

they won, and the average person lost.

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/63833/Americans-Get-Ready-for-an-Enormous-Tax-Bill?tickers=JPM,AIG,XLF,%5EDJI,%5EGSPC,BAC,C

So, tell me again about how one side is about big government and the other isn't....

I'll say for nowhere near the last time, although apparently anything said less than 1,000x and not in the form of an insult apparently doesn't count: THIS -- and myriad other things done "for our protection/welfare [choose the side you prefer to rail against, although they look more similar every day]" -- IS NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S JOB.

I'll read the article; but again the dynamic here is just amazing. Byrnes, aguy who admitted that he doesn't even CARE waht is right or wrong, calls Palin Hitleresque trailer trash, and I wind up being the one piled on here.

You gotta admit the dynamic is amazing.

Jim

No big fuss. Just cut more taxes and it will generate billions in revenues. Works every time.

Less taxes, more money for businesses to invest, more jobs craeted, more revenue coming in.

Trickle-down works, its documented; that is the solution. the lefties who knock it are lying jerks.

The press and The Dems lie through their teeth and shamelessly when they say that Reagan's tax cuts increased the debt. His tax cut brought in WAY more revenues. It was the Dem-controlled Congress that refused to stop the spending.

All the government needs to do to pay its bills is cut taxes. The more they cut taxes, the more revenues they will get, and the happier EVERYBODY will be.

Jim

Or you can vote 3rd party or Dem, get your taxes raised, and everything will be worse.

Imagine going thorugh all this right now with a Gore or Kerry economy. Yikes! Thank God that Bush fixed the Clinton recession with his tax cuts, when he first got in.

Jim

"I'll read the article; but again the dynamic here is just amazing. Byrnes, aguy who admitted that he doesn't even CARE waht is right or wrong, calls Palin Hitleresque trailer trash, and I wind up being the one piled on here."

Because again -- and again I know you find this hard to believe -- but I save my real conversations with tim for other places. I KNOW that at least 80% of what he writes here is him blowing it out his butt, and he knows it, too. To choose one obvious example out of dozens, do you REALLY think he thinks Palin is "just right of Hitler"?

You're the one saying you're being sincere here. I already know better with tim, in this particular "how far out can I take this puppy?" format. So, who SHOULD I be refuting here?

And glad to know that one post expressing my frustration with this entire process every couple months constitutes a "pile." :P

And sorry, tim, I know that just validated yr prime directive. But since it pertained to BOTH of yr political positions, despite the immediately and inevitable twisting, it DID belong here.

Besides, yr 3rd-person references don't exactly constitute "ignoring him here" either. :P

by the way....

the only thing that has trickled down to me, or the people i know, in the last 8 years, is a hell of a lot less money than we had in the 8 years before that.

go figure.

dang it....

i swore i would repect tim's wishes....

take it back to your blog jim... lord knows that place is a mess already.

"I KNOW that at least 80% of what he writes here is him blowing it out his butt, and he knows it, too. To choose one obvious example out of dozens, do you REALLY think he thinks Palin is 'just right of Hitler'?"

How do I know what to make of a guy who thinks the baby-buthcers are the good guys and baby-savers are the bad guys?

While you to try and psychoanalyze him, I'm going to call a spade a spade. Like the good book says,

Ezekiel 3:18
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"When I say to the wicked, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to warn the wicked from his wicked way that he may live, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand."

Well, as far as Byrnes on his judgement day, my hand will be just fine, thank you very much.

I won't knock you for anything you tell him in your personal correspondence with him, and you shouldn't knock me for saying what I say on the blogs.

Jim

"the only thing that has trickled down to me, or the people i know, in the last 8 years, is a hell of a lot less money than we had in the 8 years before that."

Well, while Barrack and Joe are painting themselves as your messiah for you situation, George, John, and Sarah are throwing a "What Color is Your Parachute?"
book at you, and telling you to go for the next brass ring, becuase they know you can do it. Which people are really your friends in the end?

Jim

neither.

there ain't no parachute, and there ain't no brass ring. (was that a real book you were referring too? never heard of it) it does no good to reach for that next ring, if it only promises LESS money......

and there damn sure isn't a messiah on this planet who can fix the mess we're in.

"How do I know what to make of a guy who thinks the baby-buthcers are the good guys and baby-savers are the bad guys?"

*I* don't even know what make of a statement that simplistic and dehumanizing. Besides that the irony of it is never, ever lost on me. Which brings me to....

"While you to try and psychoanalyze him, I'm going to call a spade a spade."

Right. Because friendships based on psychoanalysis LAST nearly 30 years.

"Well, as far as Byrnes on his judgement day, my hand will be just fine, thank you very much."

It's your feet I'm worried about. Although I'm not sure whether I'm more worried about the one y'r always putting up someone's butt or the one that's constantly in yr mouth. :P

"I won't knock you for anything you tell him in your personal correspondence with him..."

That's right, 'cause again you have no CLUE what goes on there, all repeated posts of yours aside to the contrary (which right there, makes yr above statement a blatant lie). And thus again...

"...and you shouldn't knock me for saying what I say on the blogs."

When it's your opinion, you're entittled to it. When it's going out of its way to misrepresent the truth about others -- under the guise of speaking The Truth -- sorry, I can only roll my eyes to myself and say "that's just jim being jim" for so long.

And again, don't think that I don't think the same about a lot of what tim writes here. But since I know a lot of it's pure venting, it's easier for me to laugh it off. The serious stuff is buried here too, if you'd CARE enough to figure it out and not always try to make a caricature out of him (and yrself even moreso, in the process).

Anyway, as we were, gentlemen.... :P

bravo.

Feh. Anyway...

Tim: Sorry for violating yr prime directive yet again, let alone for giving YOU the 3rd-person treatment. I know you wear big-boy underpants and can take care of yrself and all that, but every so often, in the words of Popeye, "I had all I can stands, I can't stands no more." :P

Anyway, it's said, AGAIN. And I'm letting it go and clearing the slate.

Until approximately late November, if history is any indication of when it'll fill up past the breaking point again. :P

"'...a guy who thinks the baby-buthcers are the good guys and baby-savers are the bad guys?'

*I* don't even know what make of a statement that simplistic and dehumanizing."

You're CRAZY!!! Its a total undeniable fact that in his mind the
liberal Democrats are the good guys and the conservative Republicans are the bad guys. Therefore my statement is 500% valid. I'm sorry that you don't see reality the way that IT IS!!! What in the Hell don't you understand about the fact that abortion kills babies?????

And the rest or your stuff is pure psycho.

Its unreal. Its unreal. He's calls Palin Hitler. Anyone with an IQ of at least 5 can figure out that's not true, and only a seriously disturbed person would even make a joke about it. You say "Ah that's Tim".

Then I say totally legitimately, based on his statements, based on his voting, based on the candidates he supports, and everything he's made perfectly clear here, that he thinks of the baby-butchers as the good guys, and the baby-savers as the bad guys.

He could say all the crap he wants about not really being for abortion, but his vote is nothing but for it. NOTHING. As far as abortion goes his vote is for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING except keeping it legal for ALL 9 MONTHS. NOT one Democrat has EVER tried to make it less and Obama even supports letting babies starve to death if they survive it, and he is totally unapologietic about it.

Dude, you have some serious reality issues. Wake up, man.

You should have made the exact accusation to Tim that you just did to me. That was my whole point.

Dude, you are whacked.

There's guys who have had much rougher lives than him, who play it straight with themselves, God, and others.

Your 30 years of psychoanalysis has failed. All you are is an enabler, man.

If he's just blowin' off steam, why don't you tell him that he has a lot of buffalo chips in the furnace.

You'll see on judgement day, buddy. You'll see.

"Besides that the irony of it is never, ever lost on me. ..."

Dude, you support killing and war more than any conservative Republican. Us conservatives hate war; that's why we stop things before they get worse. Guys like you LOVE big deadly costly world wars, because you proudly turn a blind eye towards bad situations and let them fester until more hell breaks loose than it ever would have, if some earlier intervention were not taken.

You nailed a lot of your other hippyshit ways to the cross; well Christ wants you to nail your self-righteous "I'm for peace and you're not" BS to the cross too. And why don't nail some more of your x-rated culture there too, while you're at it.

Ya know, thinking about it, maybe you came lashing out there so strong because you're beliefs are so dangerously close to Tim's beliefs.

I mean, you pretty much concur that Bush is Satan, and, well, you probably think Clinton was a much better guy, right? Bush - baby defender; Clinton - by no means a baby defender. 3rd party vote - for all its good intentions, not much of a baby defender.

There is a lot of similarities, so I can see where a guy struggling with reality, might feel the need to lash out.

But, of course, I'm just heckling you, and not looking out for you, right?

Cause everything I say, is not in love, right?

If I can only say right that, well, maybe Sarah Palin is not in essence a baby butcher, and maybe Barrack Obama, in essence is a baby-butcher, and of course, so would his abortion-conscious supporters, like Tim.

Hmmm, what is a nice way that Jesus would sugarcoat that? After all, he just liked to tip-toe through the tulips and say "peace man", didn't he?

Jim

This is all part of a bigger picture, here.

Non-Catholics, and non-serious Catholics, don't do something Christ would have us to do:

Go to Confession.

I go to confession, the sacrement instituted in John 20:21. At least once a month, I nail my pride right to the cross, and confess my sins, and my shortcomings, and I know I have many.

I take the first step. Its very humiliating to go and confess some of the same things over and over. But doing it, has put an axe to the root of all sins: pride.

Some people here, don't take good advice or direction, or new ideas, very easily, because of pride.

When I was rebuked once on my board, I said "OK" and I got rid of an "American Pie" parody thread that disparaged others.

But when I rebuke that same person, or try to provide some provoking thoughts, or reflections, I get a litany either silence, or an outburst of what a no-good dirty rotten fella I am, for being so judgemental.

Pride kills, man. The only anecdote (anitdote?) is Confession. Christ knew that; and He gives His grace freely in it.

I wonder how churches that don't know of this sacrament, or partake of it, deal with the roots of pride in themselves? I wonder if they even know they have it? If they don't turn on a light in the room of themselves, how are they ever going to see all of the dust?

Pride kills. Confession kills pride.

Jim

Hi Father Joe,

My last confession was, well, this is my first confession to a priest.

For several years, since my realization of Jesus Christ in my life, I've pursued a life for Him with a good amount of zeal; but I have to admit that I put a lot of things have on the backburner over the years. I felt led to minister in several capacities; but in the process of a lot of nagging questions were put on hold. Does God really advocate all this division among Christians? If Judas backsliding didn't nullify Christ and His teachings, then how could Crusades or church abuses nullify The Church that he formed? I realized that, well, it couldn't. I realized, that, yeah, these Catholic teachings and sacraments were always there from the start. And I finally, after years, decided that if that's the ideal way that Christ provides the grace of His sacrifice on the cross, then I want absolutley nothing less.

So, the first thing I want to confess, is having put my pride and comfort above Christ and His Holy Church.

The second thing I want to confess is that, well, some of the music that I appreciate the merits of, has some lyrics that are likely very offensive to God. Maybe, since I'm aware of it, its not such a bad thing; but I feel like I may not have always been as prudent as I should have with it. Maybe I unnecessarily promoted some bad things for other weaker people, without realizing it. But jsut to be sure, I want to confess it, and allow God to help me to see better on it.

Also, I feel like I may have been a little bit too flippant in my judgement of some conservative politicians, who might be a lot better people than I give them credit for.

And that is the bulk of my confession. I do not want to hold up the others in line, since mass starts in ten minutes.

OK, I can say my act of contrition now?

O my God,
I am heartily sorry for
having offended Thee,
and I detest all my sins,
because I dread the loss of heaven,
and the pains of hell;
but most of all because
they offend Thee, my God,
Who are all good and
deserving of all my love.
I firmly resolve,
with the help of Thy grace,
to confess my sins,
to do penance,
and to amend my life.
Amen.

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Then, the priest, who is sitting in the place of Christ (becasue that's how Christ made the sacraments work), must say the words of absolution in order for the sacrament of Penance to be valid.
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Father Joe: ... and I absolve you from your sins, in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

"-- sorry, I can only roll my eyes to myself and say 'that's just jim being jim' for so long."

Why not? Its not like it was 30 years or anything. :rolleyes:

Jim

jim... did you miss the part where carl said most of tim's ranting here is hyperbole?

good grief man... take a valium......drag back some of your chain.... i think it has been pulled all the way out.

i think carl knows tim a lot better than either of us.....

"jim... did you miss the part where carl said most of tim's ranting here is hyperbole?"

Regardless, if someone puts a pro-life downs mother in the same sentence as Hitler, when her opponents can and should in reality be described as such, I'm going to come out swinging.

"good grief man... take a valium......drag back some of your chain.... i think it has been pulled all the way out."

Well, to let Tim get away with murder, and then pile on the guy who had the dignity to point it out, is somewhat off the mark.

"i think carl knows tim a lot better than either of us....."

Well, that reasoning worked for a while. But now its only appearing as an excuse that is beginning to wear thinner and thinner.

Look, I'm not saying anyone has to be perfect, or think just like me, etc. But when people get things so wrong, for so long, about such important things close to the heart of God, it brings up a concern.

Jim

Well, here's a little something for all of us, to douse all the hellfire and brimstone:

Isaiah 55: 6 - 9
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6 Seek the LORD while he may be found, call upon him while he is near;
7 let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the LORD, that he may have mercy on him, and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says the LORD.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.

And I'll jump back out of this blog, once the dust clears on this one.

I'll let Tim's place be a place of solace for him, unless he persists with his Palin is Hitler / Wright in 08 garbage.

Still miffed that you guys didn't have the same reaction as me. Almost kinda shocked. Don't forget to say "Merry Christmas" to you kids on Dec. 25, BTW.

Oh, and Tim, thank you so much for asking! The wife and kids are doing well; number 8 is due on Oct. 20. Thanks in advance for all of your concern and well-wishes. And again, good luck with your monetary situation as well, and getting some of the proper compensation from the sons for cutting down their old man's trees.

Jim

Folks Byrnes despises:
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Mitt Romney (baby-saver)
Sarah Palin (baby-saver)
George W. Bush (baby-saver)
John McCain (baby-saver)
Mike Huckabee (baby-saver)

Folks Byrnes praises / votes for:
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Hillary Clinton (baby-butcher)
Barrack Obama (baby-butcher)
Jerkemiah Wright (baby-butcher)
Joe Biden (baby-butcher)
Al Gore (baby-butcher)

Case closed.

Its time for some deep inner spiritual change on Byrnes' part. Not later, but now.

And maybe on the part of those who spend time over-defending him, as well.

Jim

What would you say to those of us, sir, who despise all of the people in your above list?

That you are unfairly equating the characters of basically decent people with basically not-so decent people.

And, you are doing a great dis-service to humanity and the protection of innocents, by doing so.

The time has come to start soberly and fairly assessing the character of politicians based on the issues, and the logical integrity with which they approach them.

Jim

Often we need to start by approaching the issues with more integrity, ourselves.

Jim

I am not equating anything. I am unsure how you arrived at that unfounded conclusion. I just don't personally care for any of the people you listed. I dis-like them for different reasons, individually, but dis-like them, I do.

It would seem to me, at this juncture, that there are more important things to worry about, than who runs what is, in the grand scheme of things, a miniscule speck in history.

And if we do so, then, in your mind, your guilt would be diminished?

Jim

I'm sorry. What guilt is it that you mean?

I apologize the the owner of this blog, as it seems I have gotten far from his topic.

"I'm sorry. What guilt is it that you mean?"

Judging good people as bad and letting babies get butchered in the process. Poor discrimination based on a warped tendency to be unnecessarily cynical. Likely rooted in pride.

Jim

You assume a lot about me, sir.

I said that I dislike them all for different reasons. I am not discriminating. That would imply I dislike them as a group, which is not the case. I thought I was clear on that point.

I am as anti-abortion as anyone you know. I am not cynical in the least.

Perhaps I have wandered somewhere I don't belong.

Larrry,

Shut your mononymous self up and admit I have a good point that Byrnes votes for baby-butchers and knocks their opponents.

And that you and Carl oughtta be calling him on it.

Jim

sorry jim.... i'm always logged in, and yesterday was my birthday, so i wasn't online last night.

you always assume other people are me. i've done that exactly once to you, on your little message board.

Then why did you post on my board last night? :-b

And then I got a response on here, just as quickly as I got a response there?

Hey, happy birthday! What are you now, the big 33?

Jim

i didn't. you may want to check the time stamps. i didn't even get home from until about 10, and i went to watch TV with the wife.

eh whatever.... sorry tim.. i'll take a break now.



as you were....

and i'm 34.

There's a time stamp of

22 September 2008 - 22:16 on here.

Nice quick check over here at 10:15 PM after dinner last night?

I know we live in the same time zone.

You must have went out to eat from 9:00 PM to 10:00 PM, because your last post on ldv was at

22 September 2008 - 20:49.

Let's see you get out of that one.

Jim

i left work at 5pm, and got home at around 10pm..... so your time stamps are wrong, because i wasn't near a computer at 8:49... that's about the time i was driving around looking for a gas station that actually had gas

strange....this post i just made, at 6:16, says 12:16....

Military time puts you here at 10:16 PM night before last. Nice try.

Jim

military time puts you here at 2:29pm this afternoon. we'll see if you are.

whatever man.. i'm not going to argue with you. you can think what you like.

"You must have went out to eat from 9:00 PM to 10:00 PM, because your last post on ldv was at

22 September 2008 - 20:49.

Let's see you get out of that one. "

again.. this proves the time stamps are wrong. i'm the one who brought them up, so i'll take the blame.

Hey Byrnes, get your time zone right! I know you wish this was communist Russia here, but Barrack won't be in power for another few months. (And Lord, please let that not be the case).

Jim

"again.. this proves the time stamps are wrong. i'm the one who brought them up, so i'll take the blame."

HEADLINES: "Laster admits he has no sense of time and that he is totally out of touch with reality"

Jim

tim.. delete this whole mess.

i'll go away for a while...

Yeah, Tim. Your first post was beautiful with all of its f-words, and calling Palin trash, b----, Hitler, etc.

Larry and Carl are so sorry that I came along and contributed to tarnishing its beauty.

Again, ...

one can't even make jokes about the hypocrisy on their part.

God's looking down, and saying

"OK, Jim's feeling some moral outrage, maybe he shouldn't post somewhere he said he wouldn't, but hey, I know where his passion is coming from."

Then he sees Larry and Carl piling on me because Byrnes spews hate and nonsense, and I stand for the unborn by speaking the truth.

I means, its criminal. Its crazy. Its a mark of how much farther people need to allow God's grace to take them.

Now watch, one of them will show up, take that last sentence and say "Yeah Jim, you're the one who needs to allow more of God's grace in you. hyuk hyuk hyuk."

Can somebody say "warped damb mentality". Its sick.

Jim

Cool. Mugz conquers the blog by exposing Byrnes' foolishness, and the low standards that Carl and Larry have for Byrnes.

Mugz is the champion, once and for all conquering the punk rock blues blog. Exposing its folly, and shuttin' it down.

Word on the street: "Yeah, thish ol' town ushed to be place of some intristin dubate. Then ol' man Byrnes an' heez symputhizers done got put in thir place real good by Mugzy, why, righty in this here thread. Ol' Byrnes go runnin' like a raccoon with his tail tween his legs to start another blog, where no one challenge him to no seeryes thinkin'. Now that boy can run, but I reckon that he won't be able to hide."

Feels good to be the champ, for sure.

Jim

Here's the difference:

- Carl and Larry hope that some day when Byrnes is on his death bed, he'll think "Ah, I guess Larry and Carl were nice guys. Hey God, if you're up there, throw this boy a line."

- Jim, on the other hand, understands that salvation is not just salvation from Hell, but from our evil ways, as well. And that is biblical, and that is real, and that is consequential. And Jim understands this. That's why when other people are merely entertained by other peoples' immaturity, Jim sees the true sadness and loss behind it. And it is that love and concern that motivates him.

That's the difference, and it is HUGE. And it reflects the shallowness of the Protestant way, and how much damage the horrible, awful, tragic, and despicable Proetestant Reformation has caused. And until guys like Carl and Larry go back to Catholicism, Satan will continue to laugh his pointy little tail off.

Jim

If Tim comes to some realization on his death-bed, and wants to know more about this whole God thing, i'm pretty sure he won't be asking you, Jim.....

don't make this a catholic/protestant thing. this is a Jim and the rest of the world thing. i've known quite a few catholics, and most of them make me look like a right wing conservative, somewhere to the right of jim dobson.

Its Catholic theology vs. Protestant theology.

And as you constantly say

"Yes Tim, I agree Tim, I won't condemn you for saying that Tim, let me kiss your ass on the spot marked X Tim"

you certainly show how far off base Christians can get when they stray from Holy Mother Church.

Jim